# #287: Julie Hansen, CEO, Babbel – Don’t fear change Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023/287-julie-hansen-ceo-babbel-don-t-fear-change Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023/287-julie-hansen-ceo-babbel-don-t-fear-change.md Podcast: [How Leaders Lead with David Novak](https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023) Published: 2026-04-16T05:00:00+00:00 Episode link: http://howleaderslead.com/podcast/ Audio file: https://chtbl.com/track/DCB44F/traffic.megaphone.fm/DVL4622140681.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023/episodes/287-julie-hansen-ceo-babbel-don-t-fear-change Duration seconds: 3900 ## Resource Most leaders say they’re comfortable with change. But what happens when the change is so big, it threatens your entire business model? Julie Hansen is no stranger to disruption, having spent her career in online media. Now, as CEO of the language learning app Babbel, she’s facing the biggest one yet. AI is changing the way we learn languages — and raising questions about whether we’ll need to at all. But Julie doesn’t fear change. In fact, in her words, “if your business isn’t changing, it’s dying.” In this episode, she shares how to lead through uncertainty with clarity and conviction — and how to help your team see disruption as an opportunity, not a threat. You’ll also learn: How to navigate cultural differences in working styles A surprisingly simple strategy to get buy-in on an idea How to help your team get more comfortable with AI What it means to “rip the band-aid off” as a leader Take your learning further. Get proven leadership advice from these (free!) resources: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The How Leaders Lead App⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: A vast library of 90-second leadership lessons to stay sharp on the go ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Daily Insight Emails⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: One small (but powerful!) leadership principle to focus on each day Whichever you choose, you can be sure you’ll get the trusted leadership advice you need to advance your career, develop your team, and grow your business. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023/episodes/287-julie-hansen-ceo-babbel-don-t-fear-change/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-leaders-lead-with-david-novak-223023/287-julie-hansen-ceo-babbel-don-t-fear-change.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.