# 22. Incremental Development: The Smarter Way to Build Housing

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Podcast: [Housing Matters Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/housing-matters-podcast-7058173)
Published: 2025-10-22T18:26:56+00:00
Episode link: https://housingmatters.podbean.com/e/22-incremental-development-the-smarter-way-to-build-housing/
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## Resource

Real estate development doesn’t have to be big to make a big impact. In this episode, Matt Pouliot sits down with Jim Heid, infill developer, author of Building Small, and founder of the Small Developer Forum, to explore how incremental, human-scale projects can strengthen communities and expand housing choices. From cottage courts and ADUs to the future of zoning, Jim shares lessons from his 40-year career bridging design, policy, and economics. Hear how he’s helping rebrand “developers” as built-environment entrepreneurs—people who balance profit with purpose and build places that allow humanity to thrive. 👉 Learn more about Jim’s work and resources: jheid.com | buildingsmall.mn.co | Building Small on Amazon

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