# (137) The Future of BPD Treatment Starts Here With Dr. Shannon Sauer-Zavala Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282/137-the-future-of-bpd-treatment-starts-here-with-dr-shannon-sauer-zavala Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282/137-the-future-of-bpd-treatment-starts-here-with-dr-shannon-sauer-zavala.md Podcast: [Hot Mess Espresso](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282) Published: 2026-07-30T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b6258cf9ae56d5411abcb85b1afab7188e67c3a5f92cb9d1f6f876f800791247/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhYWI5YWEzYy0zZDZiLTRhMGQtOGM3MC1iZDBjODZlMzA1NjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmODc0NDI4My1jNDJkLTQ4ZWEtYTZjMS1hMGY5OWY4NWRmMzMiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NDk0YWQ4M2VhMGFjYTZmOTk4YzY3MzYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzZDY3OGNjOTI5NDUxNmVjYWMxMGQ1L2hlYXRoZXItaGVyaW5ndG9ucy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi02LTI1X18xOS0zOC0yMC5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b6258cf9ae56d5411abcb85b1afab7188e67c3a5f92cb9d1f6f876f800791247/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhYWI5YWEzYy0zZDZiLTRhMGQtOGM3MC1iZDBjODZlMzA1NjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmODc0NDI4My1jNDJkLTQ4ZWEtYTZjMS1hMGY5OWY4NWRmMzMiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NDk0YWQ4M2VhMGFjYTZmOTk4YzY3MzYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzZDY3OGNjOTI5NDUxNmVjYWMxMGQ1L2hlYXRoZXItaGVyaW5ndG9ucy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi02LTI1X18xOS0zOC0yMC5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hot-mess-espresso-6478282/episodes/137-the-future-of-bpd-treatment-starts-here-with-dr-shannon-sauer-zavala Duration seconds: 2489 ## Resource Dr. Shannon Sauer-Zavala returns to the podcast to share the results of her groundbreaking clinical trial and officially introduce BPD Compass, her new workbook designed to make effective Borderline Personality Disorder treatment more accessible. We talked about what the research revealed, why BPD is often misunderstood, how personalized treatment can create meaningful change in just 18 sessions, and what the future of BPD care looks like. Plus, BPD Compass is now available to order, giving both individuals and therapists a practical, evidence-based resource to start building lasting change and relief to those suffering from BPD. Web: https://www.shannonsauerzavala.com/ The BPD Compass Workbook - Pre-order and Bonuses: https://www.shannonsauerzavala.com/the-bpd-compass-workbook Instagram: @self.made.personality: https://www.instagram.com/self.made.personality/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hot-mess-espresso-6478282/episodes/137-the-future-of-bpd-treatment-starts-here-with-dr-shannon-sauer-zavala/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282/137-the-future-of-bpd-treatment-starts-here-with-dr-shannon-sauer-zavala.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.