# (135) Before I Make Bad Episodes, I'd Rather Make No Episodes with Matt Homes

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Podcast: [Hot Mess Espresso](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282)
Published: 2026-07-15T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week, I sit down with fellow podcaster Matt Homes for a real conversation about creative burnout, knowing when to walk away, and finding your way back to something you love. We also get into parenting, breaking generational cycles, accountability, and trying to do things differently than the way we were raised. It's honest, a little messy, and a reminder that sometimes the hardest person to hold accountable is yourself. The Homes Room Pod is officially (mostly) back up and running, so go check it out now!

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