# (132) Love, Coffee, & Creative Chaos with Taylor Stevens & Cobain Rivers

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Podcast: [Hot Mess Espresso](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hot-mess-espresso-6478282)
Published: 2026-06-24T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

“You cannot wait to be motivated to create.” Most couples kill their creative momentum by trying to do everything alone, and then there's Taylor Joy Stevens and Cobain Rivers. These founders, parents, and creative souls reveal the secret sauce behind blending business, family, mental health, and a whole lotta love without losing your mind or your flow. From turning coffee into a creative catalyst to navigating neurodivergence and shifting from "hustle hard" to "heal hard," this episode is packed with raw honesty and surprising insights. You'll discover how a simple mindset shift helped Cobain free himself from fighting his brain, why belief in yourself is the ultimate creative fuel, and how real communication (yes, therapy too) can save your relationship and your sanity. .We break down how they juggle parenthood with entrepreneurial chaos, turn creative struggles into self-care rituals, and use everyday words like “neurodivergency” and “perfectionism” to unlock real progress. This episode really hits for creatives, parents, and anyone tired of the “all or nothing” mindset. In the end, this duo proves love, creativity, and business can (and should) coexist beautifully.

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