# 194 Pet Grief and Disenfranchised Loss (with Hospice Chaplain Jessica Shannon) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hospice-explained-3645914/194-pet-grief-and-disenfranchised-loss-with-hospice-chaplain-jessica-shannon Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hospice-explained-3645914/194-pet-grief-and-disenfranchised-loss-with-hospice-chaplain-jessica-shannon.md Podcast: [Hospice Explained](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hospice-explained-3645914) Published: 2026-07-27T00:05:00+00:00 Episode link: https://hospiceexplained.libsyn.com/episode-194 Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/hospiceexplained/Episode194_Audition_v1_mixdown.mp3?dest-id=2694440 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hospice-explained-3645914/episodes/194-pet-grief-and-disenfranchised-loss-with-hospice-chaplain-jessica-shannon Duration seconds: 1477 ## Resource 194 Pet Grief and Disenfranchised Loss (with Hospice Chaplain Jessica Shannon) Host Marie Betcher, a registered nurse and former hospice nurse, interviews board-certified hospice chaplain and author Jessica Shannon in episode 194, focusing on pet grief. They discuss pet loss as "disenfranchised grief," often experienced as lonely and minimized by society, and describe anticipatory grief that begins as pets age and decline. Jessica explains how pet grief can be as intense as human loss, may trigger cumulative grief when an animal is tied to a deceased loved one, and includes grieving routines and caregiving roles after a pet dies. She shares her experience losing multiple dogs and the impact of euthanasia decisions, notes that surviving pets also grieve, and offers guidance to acknowledge the grief as real, allow time, and not rush into getting another pet. Jessica also mentions her memoir, The Sum of Grief: A Daughter's Memoir, about "grief math," which includes animals' roles in coping with loss. 00:00 Welcome and Disclaimer 00:29 Meet Host and Guest 01:37 Why Pet Grief Matters 03:38 Anticipatory Grief Signs 05:41 Lonely Disenfranchised Loss 07:09 Stories of Multiple Losses 10:09 Pets as Connections 14:42 Routine and Caregiver Role 16:49 Rehoming After Death 19:28 Practical Pet Grief Tips 21:43 Animals Grieve Too 22:36 Book Plug and Wrap-Up 23:55 Final Thanks and Outro If you want to help, you can donate to help support Hospice Explained at the Buy me a Coffee link https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Hospice Hospice Explained Affiliates & Contact Information Buying from these Affilite links will help support this Podcast. Maire introduces a partnership with Suzanne Mayer RN inventor of the cloud9caresystem.com, When patients remain in the same position for extended periods,… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hospice-explained-3645914/episodes/194-pet-grief-and-disenfranchised-loss-with-hospice-chaplain-jessica-shannon/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hospice-explained-3645914/194-pet-grief-and-disenfranchised-loss-with-hospice-chaplain-jessica-shannon.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.