# Bonus: Prof. Greg Jackson interview on The Road to Now with Dr. Ben Sawyer

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Podcast: [History That Doesn't Suck](https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-that-doesn-t-suck-528206)
Published: 2026-06-15T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Professor Greg Jackson is interviewed by Professor Ben Sawyer on The Road to Now podcast to discuss Jackson’s new book, Been There, Done That: What Our History Shows What We Can Overcome . As we approach the 250th anniversary of the United States, the conversation centers on the resilience of the American experiment. Rather than viewing the current political climate with despondency, Jackson argues that American history provides a proven blueprint for endurance. The conversation was recorded live at sea on The History Cruise That Doesn’t Suck! Order Prof. Jackson’s book now Listen to all episodes of The Road to Now

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