# Bay Originators Discussion Panel: Too $hort, Spice 1, B-Legit, Rappin 4-Tay & More

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Podcast: [History of the Bay](https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-of-the-bay-5682327)
Published: 2026-01-13T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/historyofthebay/episodes/Bay-Originators-Discussion-Panel-Too-hort--Spice-1--B-Legit--Rappin-4-Tay--More-e3dcgja
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Led by Too Short, the pioneers of Bay Area hip-hop gathered at the 3rd Annual History of the Bay Day for an epic discussion panel. Representing Oakland, San Francisco, Vallejo, and Hayward, members of the Click, the Dangerous Crew all gathered on one stage, with appearances by Conscious Daughters and Mistah FAB. Davey D (arguably the Bay's first hip-hop journalist), Lord Rab of No Vultures, and History of the Bay host Dregs One co-moderated this historic conversation.Recorded at the 3rd Annual History of the Bay Day at Public Works in San Francisco, Nov. 9, 2025--For promo opportunities on the podcast, e-mail: info@historyofthebay.com--History of the Bay Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3ZUM4rCv6xfNbvB4r8TVWU?si=9218659b5f4b43aaOnline Store: https://dregsone.myshopify.com Follow Dregs One:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1UNuCcJlRb8ImMc5haZHXF?si=poJT0BYUS-qCfpEzAX7mlAInstagram: https://instagram.com/dregs_oneTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dregs_oneTwitter: https://twitter.com/dregs_oneFacebook: https://facebook.com/dregsone41500:00 Introduction 04:14 Too $hort’s first hip-hop memories11:38 B-Legit, D-Shot & The Click16:00 4-Tay & Spice 1 21:34 Differences between the Bay & LA23:44 How Short met 4-Tay24:25 Graffiti & other hip-hop elements27:24 Short & young Spice 130:04 Car culture 35:07 D-boy contracts38:12 Playing in band44:53 Difference between mobb & hyphy 55:20 Soul Beat 57:54 Women rappers59:07 4-Tay’s origin story1:04:57 Dangerous Crew1:08:36 Spice 1’s origin story 1:15:17 The Click’s origin story1:25:$6 Conscious Daughters origin1:32:06 Too Short’s origin story 1:50:26 Dregs closing

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