# The Ideological Pathology of Antizionism (w/ Kile Jones) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-impossible-947020/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-impossible-947020/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones.md Podcast: [History Impossible](https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-impossible-947020) Published: 2026-08-11T10:00:04+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones--73778559 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/https://pdcn.co/e/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73778559/the_ideological_pathology_of_antizionism.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/history-impossible-947020/episodes/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones Duration seconds: 3354 ## Resource Antizionism, as it has become, has been having a bit of a moment for going on three years. It is a tough nut to crack, given its various claims of varying legitimacy and, as we have covered more than once on History Impossible, its increasing tendency to veer into outright antisemitism, especially by those looking for a supposedly intellectual and moral veneer for their racial and geopolitical fixations. Part of the reason for this confusion is the complex intellectual history of the position, which, after 1948, became more complicated than the relatively straightforward debate over Jewish statehood before, during, and after the Holocaust. To help make sense of this complicated intellectual history, I was thrilled to be joined by Kile Jones of The Inverted World Substack, which, along with his work for the Times of Israel , has helped map out this historical trajectory and challenge many of the preconceived notions held by many who take their anti-Israel positions for granted. We discussed this trajectory, as well as a number of other subjects, including the time Kile met with Noam Chomsky, his transition from card-carrying Marxist to an old-fashioned liberal, and many other things. It was a great conversation, hopefully the first of many, and I hope you all enjoy the journey we go on together. ... History Impossible has been made possible by the following generous supporters on Patreon, Substack, and PayPal. Please consider donating today if you want to show some love for what I do and make and what to help keep the show and all my written content going: David Adamcik Monica Almirall David Alsbach Gregg Anderson approso1999 Rajan Athul Robert Babeon Michael Beach Benjamin Greg Bosai Johannes Breitsameter Carol ABC Carol Chappelle Charles C Chomo the Clown Curtis Chris… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/history-impossible-947020/episodes/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-impossible-947020/the-ideological-pathology-of-antizionism-w-kile-jones.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.