# Roger Griffin, From Fascism to Trumpism

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Podcast: [History As It Happens](https://stenobird.com/podcast/history-as-it-happens-7112446)
Published: 2026-07-10T09:00:00+00:00
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Keep the narrative flow going while supporting the show! Subscribe now for ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content. The discourse is drowning in -isms . President Trump is railing against an imaginary resurgence of communism. Many of its critics say the Trump administration is putting the country on the road to fascism. Others are trying to define something called Trumpism. In this episode, historian Roger Griffin, one of the world's foremost experts on fascism and ideological movements, explains how these ideas developed over time through the prism of his own career. Recommended reading: The Nature of Fascism by Roger Griffin Subscribe: https://historyasithappens.supercast.com/

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