# Orators and Philosophers Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/orators-and-philosophers Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/orators-and-philosophers.md Podcast: [Hillsdale College K-12 Classical Education Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393) Published: 2026-08-03T04:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/hillsdale-college-classical-education-podcast/orators-and-philosophers Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0c7e618e-d306-498b-89ea-af55014957fe/d46d2119-8cf0-401c-be15-af5c00359b45/06465786-e799-429e-b890-b49501073460/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=9f00e49b-3c48-475e-8a84-af5c00359b61 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/episodes/orators-and-philosophers Duration seconds: 1241 ## Resource Kevin H. Gary, associate professor of education at Hillsdale College, joins host Scot Bertram to discuss the differences between orators and philosophers, the disciplines of rhetoric and philosophy, and how teachers can cultivate a balance between rhetoric and philosophy in the classroom. Learn more:  https://k12.hillsdale.edu/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/episodes/orators-and-philosophers/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/orators-and-philosophers.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.