# Kathleen O’Toole and Jared Cooney Horvath: The Digital Delusion Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion.md Podcast: [Hillsdale College K-12 Classical Education Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393) Published: 2026-09-21T04:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/hillsdale-college-classical-education-podcast/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/0c7e618e-d306-498b-89ea-af55014957fe/d46d2119-8cf0-401c-be15-af5c00359b45/3ac8a9d0-96f0-47fb-9d45-b4c100f04dbf/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=9f00e49b-3c48-475e-8a84-af5c00359b61 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/episodes/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion Duration seconds: 2006 ## Resource Kathleen O’Toole, associate vice president for K-12 Education at Hillsdale College, and Jared Cooney Horvath discuss the ineffectiveness of student-centered, technology-based learning and the importance of teacher-led instruction in a child's cognitive development. Jared Cooney Horvath is a neuroscientist, educator, and author of The Digital Delusion: How Classroom Technology Harms Our Kids' Learning--and How to Help Them Thrive Again . See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/episodes/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hillsdale-college-k-12-classical-education-podcast-18393/kathleen-o-toole-and-jared-cooney-horvath-the-digital-delusion.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.