# Ep203 - The Part of Divorce No One Talks About (But Every Woman Feels) with guest, Therapist Oona Metz Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz.md Podcast: [HIListically Speaking with Hilary Russo](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405) Published: 2026-01-14T09:44:00+00:00 Episode link: https://hilisticallyspeaking.libsyn.com/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/hilisticallyspeaking/1-203_The_Part_of_Divorce_No_One_Talks_About_But_Every_Woman_Feels_with_guest_Oona_Metz.mp3?dest-id=2142491 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405/episodes/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz Duration seconds: 1656 ## Resource January has earned a difficult nickname in legal and mental health circles: Divorce Month. But what's really happening when the holidays end, and so many women begin questioning their marriages? In this episode of HIListically Speaking , Hilary Russo is joined by Oona Metz, therapist of 30 years and author of Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women . Together, they unpack why couples often hold on through the holidays, how chronic stress shows up in the body, and why divorce is not a failure, but a loss that deserves care, grief, and support. Oona shares her own divorce journey, her groundbreaking model of divorce grief, and why community, humor, and agency are essential for healing. This conversation is for women on the edge of a decision, in the middle of separation, or supporting someone through it, and for anyone ready to release shame and redefine what it means to choose themselves. ORDER OONA'S BOOK: Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women https://amzn.to/49j9lwO (Amazon) ⁣As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases CONNECT WITH OONA https://www.oonametz.com https://www.instagram.com/oonametz https://www.linkedin.com/in/oona-metz-licsw-cgp-6a14a41b/ https://www.facebook.com/womennavigatingdivorce/ JOIN ME ON SUBSTACK - THE BRAIN CANDY BLUEPRINT! ⁣ https://substack.com/@hilaryrusso ⁣ GET BRAIN CANDY & WAYS TO BE KIND TO YOUR MIND SENT TO YOUR INBOX⁣ https://www.hilaryrusso.com/braincandy⁣ DISCOVER HAVENING TECHNIQUES TRAININGS & WORKSHOPS⁣ https://www.hilaryrusso.com/training⁣ ⁣ BOOK HILARY FOR YOUR NEXT EVENT OR ATTEND!⁣ https://www.hilaryrusso.com/events⁣ ⁣ CONNECT WITH HILARY⁣ https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilaryrusso⁣ https://www.instagram.com/hilaryrusso⁣ https://www.instagram.com/hilisticallyspeaking⁣ https://www.youtube.com/hila… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405/episodes/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hilistically-speaking-with-hilary-russo-483405/ep203-the-part-of-divorce-no-one-talks-about-but-every-woman-feels-with-guest-therapist-oona-metz.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.