# Travis, Dan, and I (Bush, Bartlett, and Shumard)

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Podcast: [Hike, Explore, Repeat: Trailblazing Texas Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hike-explore-repeat-trailblazing-texas-podcast-6729445)
Published: 2026-03-06T14:13:10+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/trailblazingtexas/2598319
Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/241356/2598319/trailblazingtexas/2026_03_05_18_05_37_d23c0364-996b-4569-93cb-53aac39052a4.mp3
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Duration seconds: 4491

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Travis's Message for the Listeners: Don't follow my descent line. Episode Description: In this episode of the Trailblazing Texas Podcast, I sit down with Dan and Travis to unpack one of the more ambitious routes in the Guadalupe Mountains, the Bush, Bartlett, and Shumard traverse. On paper, the idea sounds simple enough: link together three rugged peaks across some of the most remote terrain in the Guadalupes. But anyone who has spent time in these mountains knows that the Guads have a way of turning a plan into something far more complex once boots hit the ground. Dan and Travis walk through how the idea for the traverse first came together, the expectations they each had going into it, and how past experiences in the Guadalupe Mountains shaped the way they approached the route. From route research and weather considerations to mileage estimates and bailout options, we dig into the planning that goes into attempting a serious off-trail objective like this. We also talk gear, what they carried, what performed well in the steep terrain, and the equipment decisions that mattered most when conditions started getting real. But the heart of this episode is the story of the traverse itself. What it feels like to step off the trail and commit to a route where progress isn’t always obvious, how exposure and terrain begin to wear on both body and mind, and the moments where judgment, communication, and trust between partners become critical. Dan and Travis share the highs, the low points, the hardest decisions they faced along the way, and what this experience ultimately taught them about the Guadalupe Mountains, and about themselves. This conversation is an honest look at the reality of big mountain objectives in West Texas: the preparation, the uncertainty, the partnership re…

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