# Lucas Morel: Frederick Douglass's Evolving View of Abraham Lincoln

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Podcast: [Higher Ed Now](https://stenobird.com/podcast/higher-ed-now-175096)
Published: 2026-04-23T14:06:00+00:00
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## Resource

On this episode of Higher Ed Now, ACTA's Michael Poliakoff hosts Washington & Lee University's John K. Boardman, Jr. Professor of Politics, Lucas Morel . Professor Morel currently serves on the U.S. Semiquincentennial Commission and ACTA's National Commission on American History and Civic Education. He has also co-edited the book "Measuring the Man: The Writings of Frederick Douglass on Abraham Lincoln," a groundbreaking new volume on how abolitionist Frederick Douglass's view of Abraham Lincoln evolved as America navigated its way through the Civil War and, eventually, to the Emancipation Proclamation. A very special video version of this episode is available on YouTube now!

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