# What Needs to Change in Aligning Marketing and Sales Teams with Joe Fontana Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana.md Podcast: [Higgle: The B2B Sales Club](https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259) Published: 2026-03-16T06:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2.libsyn.com/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/9e87cc1f-f19f-4fe0-9a73-46635c121ed2/Higgle_-_Joe_Fontana.mp3?dest-id=4084452 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/episodes/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana Duration seconds: 1787 ## Resource Are we hiding behind sales tech instead of actually knowing how to sell? Joe Fontana, Advisor / Founding VP of Sales at Dextego, is a sales leader who's been building teams since the 90s. In this episode, we go straight into the tension that's shaping modern B2B selling. We talk about why sales and marketing still struggle to align, what's broken about incentives and KPIs, and why SDR teams might belong inside marketing. Joe challenges the way we think about prospecting today, especially the growing dependence on automation and AI. As we unpack what's changed (and what hasn't), we realize we're circling a bigger question about whether sellers truly understand the fundamentals anymore. From cold calling myths to LinkedIn prospecting strategies, we look at what actually works in 2026. Joe shares hard truths about technology becoming a crutch, why most sellers couldn't survive without their tools, and what it really means to "come correct" when approaching a buyer. We explore why big deals can't be closed over email, how fear still drives avoidance of the phone, and what buyers actually need from sellers today. Topics covered during this episode include: How sales and marketing fail to see themselves as symbiotic partners. Why misaligned metrics create tension between quota and brand building. The structural disconnect between short-term sales targets and long-term marketing strategy. How SDR teams can bridge the gap when aligned under marketing. What modern SDRs learn from frontline prospecting data. The shift from pitching to leading with curiosity and learning. How thoughtful research separates professionals from automated noise. Why over-reliance on technology weakens fundamental selling skills. The risks of trusting automation without verifying personalization. How m… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/episodes/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/higgle-the-b2b-sales-club-6622259/what-needs-to-change-in-aligning-marketing-and-sales-teams-with-joe-fontana.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.