# Psychologist Reacts: The Warning Signs Everyone Missed | Marcia Norman Case

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Podcast: [Hidden True Crime](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-true-crime-1015593)
Published: 2026-06-07T06:13:00+00:00
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## Resource

This episode originally premiered on May 18, 2025, but as the case against Jeffrey Zizz moves closer to trial, it feels more important than ever to revisit. Marcia Norman deserved to grow old surrounded by her family, grandchildren, friends, and the life she built. Instead, prosecutors allege she was targeted by a man she trusted. In this episode, forensic psychologist Dr. John Matthias examines Jeffrey Zizz's background, criminal history, behaviors, and the warning signs investigators say were present long before Marcia's murder. Understanding who Jeffrey Zizz is—and how someone allegedly capable of such violence was able to gain the trust of vulnerable people—is essential to understanding this case. As questions continue about justice, accountability, and what comes next, we believe Marcia's story deserves to remain in the public eye. Sponsors: Q30: For a FREE Q-Collar sleeve with your Q-Collar purchase, head to https://Q30.com/HIDDEN and use code HIDDEN. ASPCA Pet Insurance: Explore coverage at https://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/HIDDEN About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcast…

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