# DISTURBING New Details Just Revealed in Court by Tanner's Own Experts | Athena Strand Trial Recap Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-true-crime-1015593/disturbing-new-details-just-revealed-in-court-by-tanner-s-own-experts-athena-strand-trial-recap Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-true-crime-1015593/disturbing-new-details-just-revealed-in-court-by-tanner-s-own-experts-athena-strand-trial-recap.md Podcast: [Hidden True Crime](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-true-crime-1015593) Published: 2026-05-02T17:15:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD2923794376.mp3?updated=1778514412 Audio file: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/433/claritaspod.com/measure/traffic.megaphone.fm/QCD2923794376.mp3?updated=1778514412 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-true-crime-1015593/episodes/disturbing-new-details-just-revealed-in-court-by-tanner-s-own-experts-athena-strand-trial-recap Duration seconds: 11812 ## Resource It's week 4 of the Tanner Horner trial and Lauren Matthias is here with all of the updates. The defense has now spent weeks trying to explain Tanner Horner—his autism, trauma, mental health, and the life that shaped him—but their own expert made something clear: he knew right from wrong, and the crime itself was horrific. In this episode, we break down the second week of defense testimony in the murder of 7-year-old Athena Strand, from teachers and pastors to ex-girlfriends and forensic psychiatrists, all painting a picture of a man who internalized pain… yet committed an unthinkable act. So the jury is left with the question at the center of this trial—how do these two versions of a person exist at the same time… and does any of it change what justice should look like? Sponsor: Jones Road Beauty: Use code HIDDEN 👉 https://jonesroadbeauty.com to get a free Shimmer Face Oil with your first purchase! #JonesRoadBeauty About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-true-crime-1015593/episodes/disturbing-new-details-just-revealed-in-court-by-tanner-s-own-experts-athena-strand-trial-recap/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-true-crime-1015593/disturbing-new-details-just-revealed-in-court-by-tanner-s-own-experts-athena-strand-trial-recap.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.