# What Are Mackenzie Shirilla's Parents Saying on Recorded Prison Calls?

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Podcast: [Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426)
Published: 2026-06-05T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8912404
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Natalie Shirilla called the Russo family "evil people" on a recorded prison line. Steve Shirilla's teaching contract was not renewed after he appeared on a Netflix documentary defending a convicted killer — his daughter. Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis examines what this family is doing to Mackenzie Shirilla's case from the outside. Mackenzie Shirilla was convicted in 2023 of killing her boyfriend Dominic Russo and his friend Davion Flanagan after driving into a brick building at roughly a hundred miles an hour in Strongsville, Ohio. She's serving fifteen years to life. On recorded calls from the Ohio Reformatory for Women, Natalie has told her daughter that rehabilitation is for "actual criminals" and that her story isn't finished. She's encouraged Mackenzie to write a book. Prosecutors decoded separate calls in which Mackenzie and Natalie used a fabricated language to circumvent the prison monitoring system. In one of those decoded conversations, Mackenzie allegedly asked whether they could claim she had a seizure before the crash. The calls were presented as evidence at trial. Steve's public campaign has included podcasts, news appearances, and a Netflix documentary where he stated on camera he had no issue with his daughter's substance use — while employed as a teacher at a Catholic elementary school. He challenged the public to show him evidence of intent while a judge's findings already address exactly that. Faddis breaks down whether Natalie's conduct on monitored calls could carry legal consequences, whether Steve's public statements undermine the appeal, and whether this family understands that every word on a recorded line becomes part of the institutional record the parole board will review. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES &…

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