# The Crash: What If Everyone in the Mackenzie Shirilla Case Is Telling Their Own Version of the Truth? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/the-crash-what-if-everyone-in-the-mackenzie-shirilla-case-is-telling-their-own-version-of-the-truth Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/the-crash-what-if-everyone-in-the-mackenzie-shirilla-case-is-telling-their-own-version-of-the-truth.md Podcast: [Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426) Published: 2026-06-04T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8911511 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8911511.mp3?modified=1780511122&sid=5040505&source=rss Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/episodes/the-crash-what-if-everyone-in-the-mackenzie-shirilla-case-is-telling-their-own-version-of-the-truth Duration seconds: 1369 ## Resource Dominic Russo's father says he needs the truth so he can grieve. But what if the truth he needs isn't the truth the evidence supports? What if grief has so completely fused with certainty that the family can't distinguish between what happened and what they need to believe happened? Mackenzie Shirilla says she has no memory of the crash that killed Dominic and Davion Flanagan. The families say she's calculated and cold. A fellow inmate says the remorseful woman in the documentary is performance. The judge who convicted her also denied her post-conviction petition. Everyone in this case has landed on a version — and nobody's open to reconsidering. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott has spent over thirty years helping people navigate trauma and loss. She's worked with grieving families, with perpetrators of violence, and with people trapped between versions of reality they can't reconcile. She examines the psychology driving every side of the Mackenzie Shirilla case — the clinical reality of trauma-induced memory loss, how grief creates a need for a clear villain, whether remorse and performance can coexist in the same person, and the devastating question the system may be unable to process. This conversation doesn't take sides. It examines how everyone involved in this case — the families, the prosecution, the defense, Mackenzie herself — has constructed a version of truth shaped by what they need it to be. And it asks what happens to justice when nobody in the room is seeing the evidence without a filter. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https:/… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/episodes/the-crash-what-if-everyone-in-the-mackenzie-shirilla-case-is-telling-their-own-version-of-the-truth/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/the-crash-what-if-everyone-in-the-mackenzie-shirilla-case-is-telling-their-own-version-of-the-truth.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.