# Mackenzie Shirilla’s Mother Told Her Rehab Is for ‘Actual Criminals’ — on a Recorded Line Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/mackenzie-shirilla-s-mother-told-her-rehab-is-for-actual-criminals-on-a-recorded-line Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/mackenzie-shirilla-s-mother-told-her-rehab-is-for-actual-criminals-on-a-recorded-line.md Podcast: [Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426) Published: 2026-06-20T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8918614 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8918614.mp3?modified=1781878264&sid=5040505&source=rss Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/episodes/mackenzie-shirilla-s-mother-told-her-rehab-is-for-actual-criminals-on-a-recorded-line Duration seconds: 2227 ## Resource Natalie Shirilla told her daughter on a monitored prison call that rehabilitation programs are for “actual criminals.” Her daughter was convicted of driving a hundred miles an hour into a brick building in Strongsville, Ohio, killing Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. The Ohio Supreme Court has declined to hear the appeal. And the family is still operating as though this was a misunderstanding. Investigators didn’t need Mackenzie Shirilla to talk. Her vehicle’s data recorder captured accelerator at full capacity, zero braking, and a direct line into a commercial building. Weeks before the crash, a family friend reported hearing Shirilla threaten to wreck her car with Russo inside. She had driven to the same dead-end road days earlier. Prosecutors introduced decoded monitored calls in which Shirilla and her mother communicated using a fabricated language designed to evade the prison recording system — including, according to the prosecution, a discussion about telling police Shirilla had experienced a seizure. Inside the Ohio Reformatory for Women, Shirilla has accumulated thirty-six conduct violations and been found guilty on thirty-two. Fellow inmates describe her treating the facility like a social hierarchy — no indication of remorse, no engagement with programming. Her father Steve appeared on a Netflix documentary defending her, acknowledged on camera he had no objection to her substance use while employed at a Catholic school, and subsequently lost his teaching position. Natalie Shirilla has referred to the Russo family as “evil” on a recorded line. She has encouraged Mackenzie to write a book. The prison calls obtained after the Netflix documentary aired reveal a family locked into a version of events that the court record directly contradicts. Join Our SubStack… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/episodes/mackenzie-shirilla-s-mother-told-her-rehab-is-for-actual-criminals-on-a-recorded-line/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426/mackenzie-shirilla-s-mother-told-her-rehab-is-for-actual-criminals-on-a-recorded-line.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.