# 16 Siders Kids: Their Father Lived TWO Lives Every Single Day

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Podcast: [Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary-5840426)
Published: 2026-07-16T12:00:00+00:00
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Every morning, Gary Siders Jr. left a house where sixteen children were confined to a single room and went to work delivering food to strangers. He had a phone. A car. Customer ratings. Small talk at restaurant counters. Then every night he drove back to Ohmer Street and walked into the other reality. He held both, simultaneously, for years — and never cracked in public. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines the compartmentalization that makes that possible, and what it says about the minds inside that house. Because nothing about the Siders operation was falling apart. Taxes paid. Utilities running. Regular shopping trips. This was a managed household — organized around confinement instead of care — and three generations participated in the management. The conversation turns to Elizabeth Siders, married at fifteen while pregnant, cut off from her family for fifteen years, possibly pregnant twenty times starting at age thirteen. Scott works through whether a person shaped by that kind of control from childhood can meaningfully be called a decision-maker — and what the DNA testing investigators are now running on the older children could reveal about how far inward this family collapsed. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven gui…

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