# Why Did A Career Defense Investigator Start Building The Case Against Kouri Richins?

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Podcast: [Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841)
Published: 2026-05-30T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8908910
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Todd Gabler had spent 34 years working one side of the courtroom — every case for the defense. Then Eric Richins' family called about a civil matter and the phone records pulled in the first few weeks made staying in that lane impossible. Constant contact between Kouri Richins and a housekeeper with a criminal record and active drug court failures — in the months surrounding Eric's death. Law enforcement hadn't reached those records yet. Gabler flagged the pattern and kept going. Nearly 50 interviews. Multiple vehicles tracked. A body of evidence assembled that would eventually help break open a criminal investigation that had stalled. The behavioral question is what drives a career defense investigator to cross the line he's worked behind for three decades — and the answer is in what the records showed him. This is the first time Gabler has sat down to walk through the beginning of this case publicly — the call, the records, the moment the direction became clear. A conversation nobody else has had with the man who was inside this investigation before any charges were filed. That investigation ended with a conviction. What came after didn't end. Before sentencing, Kouri wrote a message that prosecutors filed with the court: "They picked the wrong one." "They haven't seen anything yet." She allegedly wrote a letter from jail instructing her brother to testify falsely. She's accused of witness intimidation. Her own thirteen-year-old told the court he's afraid she'll come for him if she's ever released. Eric Faddis walks through what someone serving life without parole can still do from behind bars — the mail, the calls, the proxies — and the legal tools available to protect the Richins family. No-contact orders, protective orders, corrections restrictions. Each addresses…

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