# What Nancy Guthrie's Ransom Hoaxer Actually Got

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Podcast: [Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841)
Published: 2026-07-13T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8926339
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## Resource

Six months into Nancy Guthrie's disappearance, one case connected to it just closed — and it's not the one anyone's been waiting on. A California man pleaded guilty to sending the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands while the search for Nancy was still active. What he actually got for it is the part that's sparking outrage. The charge was pled down to harassment, which tops out at two years federally, and the resulting sentence was five years of probation, with both counts running concurrently rather than adding up. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer didn't hold back, calling it a travesty and warning it could embolden the copycats still flooding investigators with fake notes — a group now nicknamed the TMZ Twelve, which the FBI has reportedly indicated are likely not real. Two other notes are being treated as potentially legitimate. The first demanded four million dollars, threatened to raise it to six million, and warned Nancy would be killed if it wasn't paid. The second is an apology letter sent only to local television stations, expressing remorse and calling her death an accident — a letter some believe may have been written with AI. Investigators reportedly connected both notes to the same IP address, one of the few solid threads in the entire investigation. We also get into Porch Guy, a person tied to the case who remains unidentified publicly and hasn't been apprehended, despite legal tools that have worked in comparable cases to track a suspect down. Catch the full conversation now — link in the description. Social Links & Legal Footer Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com…

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