# The Crash: Is Mackenzie Shirilla Lying About Her Memory or Is Everyone Else? Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841/the-crash-is-mackenzie-shirilla-lying-about-her-memory-or-is-everyone-else Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841/the-crash-is-mackenzie-shirilla-lying-about-her-memory-or-is-everyone-else.md Podcast: [Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841) Published: 2026-06-02T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8910423 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audioboom.com/posts/8910423.mp3?modified=1780340183&sid=5078367&source=rss Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841/episodes/the-crash-is-mackenzie-shirilla-lying-about-her-memory-or-is-everyone-else Duration seconds: 1148 ## Resource A fellow inmate who spent six months with Mackenzie Shirilla says the woman in Netflix's The Crash — the one speaking softly from prison, expressing remorse, insisting she has no memory — isn't the person she lived with behind bars. She described someone doing her makeup, navigating the prison social hierarchy, performing a version of herself. So which Mackenzie is real? The documentary Mackenzie or the prison Mackenzie? But that question applies to everyone in this case, not just the defendant. Dominic Russo's sister started a podcast to give her brother a voice. The families appear in the documentary telling their version. The prosecutor's office built a narrative around surveillance footage and presented it as proof of intent. Even the judge — who both convicted Shirilla and later denied her post-conviction petition — had a version she was committed to. Shirilla was convicted of four counts of murder in the Strongsville, Ohio crash that killed Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. She maintains she has no memory of what happened. Her defense team raised a medical condition — POTS — that could explain loss of consciousness, but never presented expert testimony. The neurologist who later supported the claim was shut out of court by a one-day filing error. Robin Dreeke spent his career at the FBI reading people — evaluating claims, detecting deception, separating genuine responses from constructed ones. He walks through every competing narrative in this case: Mackenzie's memory claim, the families' certainty, the inmate's contradiction, and the judge's dual role. The question isn't just whether Mackenzie is lying. It's whether anyone in this case is seeing the evidence clearly — or whether everyone is performing the truth they need. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE E… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841/episodes/the-crash-is-mackenzie-shirilla-lying-about-her-memory-or-is-everyone-else/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns-5650841/the-crash-is-mackenzie-shirilla-lying-about-her-memory-or-is-everyone-else.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.