# The Artist’s Way at 40: One Woman’s Unexpected Second Act | Calleen De Oliveira, Ep. 12

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Podcast: [Her Intentional Reset: Career changes and second acts for women in midlife](https://stenobird.com/podcast/her-intentional-reset-7728413)
Published: 2026-06-02T08:45:00+00:00
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## Resource

You’re good at your job, you’re juggling everything, and somewhere underneath all of it there’s a quiet question you haven’t answered yet: what do I actually want to do next? The problem isn’t that you don’t know how to work hard — it’s that no one ever taught you how to listen to yourself. ABOUT THIS EPISODE: In this episode, Molly shares how The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron kept showing up in her life right when she needed it — and why that’s not as mystical as it sounds. Then she brings in Calleen De Oliveira, who used this exact book in her 40s to leave a 25-year advertising career, go to nursing school, and build a life she is proud of. What came out of those morning pages surprised even Calleen — and it went far beyond a career change. Plus: Molly announces the first Her Intentional Reset Experience: The Artist’s Way Creative Cluster, and is giving away eight copies of the book to listeners who want to join. WHAT YOU WILL LEARN: [01:15] The three-day sequence that convinced Molly this book was worth paying attention to — and the neuroscience that explains why it happened [06:52] What The Artist’s Way actually is — and why it’s not just for people who want to paint [13:22] What morning pages did for Calleen that nothing else could: nursing school, sobriety, and a marriage she almost lost [19:01] What a real Creative Cluster looks like — Calleen’s group of eight women stayed together for a decade [24:15] The right mindset to bring into this 12-week practice (and what Calleen says to anyone who doesn’t want to commit) [32:09] How to join the very first Her Intentional Reset Experience — The Artist’s Way Creative Cluster — and how to win one of eight free copies of the book RESOURCES: "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron | Amazon Link "The Right to Write" by Julia Ca…

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