# Jonathan Vs. Kalila on Smash Boom Best

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Podcast: [Heavyweight](https://stenobird.com/podcast/heavyweight-7230802)
Published: 2026-06-25T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/heavyweight/jonathan-vs-kalila-on-smash-boom-best
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## Resource

Jonathan and Kalila go toe-to-toe as guests on the children’s debate podcast, Smash Boom Best , where they debate the merits of phone calls vs. texting. We had a lot of fun doing it, and—if it’s not too bold to presume—we think you will have fun listening to it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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