# Jay Dyer on the Enlightenment, Americanism & the Religion of Politics

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Podcast: [Heavy Things Lightly](https://stenobird.com/podcast/heavy-things-lightly-296775)
Published: 2026-07-24T17:24:41+00:00
Episode link: https://johnheersftf.substack.com/p/jay-dyer-on-the-enlightenment-americanism
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Find this episode on YouTube: Jay Dyer joins John Heers to discuss the decline of 2000s New Atheism, shifting internet culture, the Enlightenment, Americanism, Orthodox Christianity, and the political forces shaping the modern West.They examine growing skepticism toward claims of scientific neutrality and political objectivism, arguing that politics often functions as a substitute religion—complete with its own dogmas, sacred myths, and promises of salvation. The conversation also explores whether political systems are ultimately controlled by deeper oligarchic and bureaucratic forces operating behind the scenes.Jay and John critique the Enlightenment as a project that elevated human reason into an idol, connecting its assumptions to liberalism, American civic religion, text-centered religion, and modern ideas about human nature. They contrast abstract systems that promise to save society with the concrete virtue—or vice—of the people who actually operate them.The conversation also covers monarchy and democracy in the Christian tradition, the American Dream, Tucker Carlson’s interest in theology, Kant, postmodernism, the decline of New Atheism, and what may come after the Enlightenment project.Along the way, Jay discusses his background, podcasting, internet culture, humor, and the importance of embodied community. They also introduce upcoming Art of Tamada events in Greenville, South Carolina, August 28–29, and Islamorada, October 29–November 2, describing Supra as a communal and experiential practice rooted in hospitality and Orthodox theology.Topics include:- The decline of New Atheism- The Enlightenment and reason as an idol- Americanism and liberal rights- Politics as a substitute religion- Democracy, monarchy, and Christian political thought- Oligarchy, bureaucra…

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