# An Odyssean Tale: The Man Who Would Not Quit

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Podcast: [Heavy Things Lightly](https://stenobird.com/podcast/heavy-things-lightly-296775)
Published: 2026-09-04T15:33:20+00:00
Episode link: https://johnheersftf.substack.com/p/an-odyssean-tale-the-man-who-would
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Duration seconds: 5799

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Find this episode on YouTube: Crow walked America searching for his father — and found the Father.From West Virginia hollers to LA gangs, from wolves in the Mojave desert to an Orthodox cross, this is an Odyssean tale of wandering, regret, and becoming Lazarus. John Heers sits with Crow (baptism name Lazarus) for his full life arc — with surprise appearances by his childhood friend Jonathan Pageau and his spiritual father Fr. Turbo.Chapters:00:00 Intro: Crow's Life Is the Story of All of Us01:26 Meet Lazarus — With Jonathan Pageau & Fr. Turbo in Kansas City02:23 How Crow Met Pageau at 14 — The Christian Camp04:50 The Campfire Story — The Girl, The Red Car & Real Suffering10:43 Awakening: Learning Empathy13:14 Two Americas — Rich Suburbs to High-Death-Rate Ghettos14:32 Leaving Home at 15 — Sneaking Onto the Camp Bus17:24 Stories That Matter — Ninja Turtles & Pageau's Unshakable Cool20:45 The Split at 17 — Pageau to History & Literature, Crow to Roots22:36 Walking America — Elders, Traditions & The Search for Soul25:27 Dreams in California — The Bald Man Who Was His Father27:30 Finding His Father's Photo — The L.A. Library Internet Search29:50 Calypso — Distracted in Chicago30:34 The Phone Call — His Father Dies in Atlantic City31:40 L.A. Years — Being a Tough Guy Without Fighting36:10 Every Elder Had a Flag & a Cross — Flood Stories & Giants39:33 The West Virginia Church That Felt Like Africa41:40 Venice Beach Open House — An Accidental Elder44:30 His Mother Finds Orthodoxy in Montana — The Cool Hand on Her Cheek54:35 Sickness, Migraines & The Red Road to The Green Road55:30 Five Acres in the Desert — No Couch, No Bed, No TV58:36 Praying for a Wife at the Front Gate — The Reggae Festival01:03:43 Hearing the Same Jazz No One Else Heard — Falling in Love01:08:02 When the…

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