# Ep. 63: The Patient Journey That Gets 85%+ of People to Wellness Care

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Podcast: [Heartwork Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/heartwork-podcast-7062655)
Published: 2025-12-09T09:00:00+00:00
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We get asked all the time how we convert so many people from pain-based care into wellness and lifestyle adjustments. The answer isn't one magical conversation. It's a hundred small ones that happen from the moment someone sees your website to the moment they sign their wellness plan. You're either guiding the conversation proactively or you're scrambling to convince someone reactively. And one of those feels good, the other feels like you're selling something you shouldn't have to sell. 🔥 In...

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