# Ep. 61: Expanders Retreat Recap | Quantum Friendships and the Rooms That Change Your DNA

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Published: 2025-11-25T09:00:00+00:00
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Custom cowgirl hats, fine line tattoos, cold plunges, and conversations that cracked people wide open. We just got back from Scottsdale for our second Expanders retreat with Stephanie Wigner and we are not the same. This is what happens when you stop competing and start calling each other forward. When the goal isn't to impress but to go deeper. When guards come down, ego gets checked at the door, and nobody's pretending anymore. This weekend was about expansion in every direction. Quantum fr...

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