# Ep. 321 – Ram Dass and the Freedom to Be Human

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Published: 2026-04-23T16:20:00+00:00
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In this illuminating talk, Jack explores the heart of freedom through the lens of his friendship with Ram Dass, reflecting on how to cultivate a heart that can meet it all with loving awareness. Today’s podcast is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/heartwisdom and get on your way to being your best self. This time on Heart Wisdom, Jack Kornfield shares: Ram Dass and the liberation of the heart The Dharma teaching of letting go Freedom from attachment to preferences Compassion in difficult times The wisdom of Buddhist teachings in modern life “There was something so liberating about Ram Dass because he wasn't attached to who he was—he was playing with it.”  –Jack Kornfield This episode was first recorded on Feb 23, 2026 for the Spirit Rock Monday Night Talk and Meditation About Jack Kornfield: Jack Kornfield trained as a Buddhist monk in the monasteries of Thailand, India, and Burma, studying as a monk under the Buddhist master Ven. Ajahn Chah, as well as the Ven. Mahasi Sayadaw. He has taught meditation internationally since 1974 and is one of the key teachers to introduce Buddhist mindfulness practice to the West. Jack co-founded the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, Massachusetts, with fellow meditation teachers Sharon Salzberg and Joseph Goldstein and the Spirit Rock Center in Woodacre, California. His books have been translated into 20 languages and sold more than a million copies. Jack is currently offering a wonderful array of transformational online courses diving into crucial topics like Mindfulness Meditation Fundamentals , Walking the Eightfold Path , Opening the Heart of Forgiveness , Living Beautifully , Transforming Your Life Through Powerful Stories , and so much more. Sign up for an All Access Pass to explor…

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