# PopHealth Week: From Network Discounts to Population Health with Frank Roby, Averify Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962/pophealth-week-from-network-discounts-to-population-health-with-frank-roby-averify Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962/pophealth-week-from-network-discounts-to-population-health-with-frank-roby-averify.md Podcast: [Healthcare NOW Radio Podcast Network - Discussions on healthcare including technology, innovation, policy, data security, telehealth and more. Visit HealthcareNOWRadio.com](https://stenobird.com/podcast/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962) Published: 2026-05-03T00:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/hcnradio/pophealth-week-from-network Audio file: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2303999294-hcnradio-pophealth-week-from-network.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962/episodes/pophealth-week-from-network-discounts-to-population-health-with-frank-roby-averify Duration seconds: 1683 ## Resource On this episode Fred and Gregg welcome Frank Roby, Chairman and CEO of Averify LLC, the Dallas-based company behind Healthcare's Fair Price Index. Roby challenges one of the most stubborn myths in employer health plan management: that price, quality, and member risk can be managed separately. Using Averify's proprietary Variability Cost Index®, Roby explains how independent benchmarking of medical claims data exposes the pricing ambiguity hidden inside every network discount and how that clarity cascades into better population health outcomes. The conversation covers GLP-1 drug spending, musculoskeletal care design, the equity failures of high-deductible health plans, voluntary benefits, and the accountability obligations the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021 now places on every plan sponsor. To stream our Station live 24/7 visit www.HealthcareNOWRadio.com or ask your Smart Device to “….Play Healthcare NOW Radio”. Find all of our network podcasts on your favorite podcast platforms and be sure to subscribe and like us. Learn more at www.healthcarenowradio.com/listen ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962/episodes/pophealth-week-from-network-discounts-to-population-health-with-frank-roby-averify/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/healthcare-now-radio-podcast-network-discussions-on-healthcare-including-technology-innovation-policy-data-security-telehealth-and-more-visit-healthcarenowradio-com-475962/pophealth-week-from-network-discounts-to-population-health-with-frank-roby-averify.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.