# The Birth of Sorrow | Part 3: Conflict and Defense In Neurotic-Level Narcissism

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Podcast: [Heal NPD](https://stenobird.com/podcast/heal-npd-6909580)
Published: 2026-06-03T15:40:05+00:00
Episode link: https://drettensohn.podbean.com/e/the-birth-of-sorrow-part-3-conflict-and-defense-in-neurotic-level-narcissism/
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## Resource

This is the third part of a three-part exploration of narcissistic personality style at the neurotic level of personality organization. In this episode, Dr. Ettensohn examines the defensive architecture of neurotic-level narcissism, including the characteristic defenses that allow individuals to manage conflict, preserve relationships, and maintain self-esteem without resorting to the identity fragmentation or reality distortion seen at more severe levels of personality organization. Drawing on the Defense Mechanisms Rating Scale (DMRS), this episode explores obsessional defenses such as isolation of affect, intellectualization, and undoing, as well as neurotic defenses including repression, reaction formation, and displacement. Through clinical examples, personal reflections, and portrayals from film and literature, Dr. Ettensohn illustrates how these defenses shape emotional experience, interpersonal relationships, and the therapeutic process. The episode also examines how narcissistic concerns manifest at the neurotic level, including struggles with self-worth, dependency, vulnerability, perfectionism, and grief. Particular attention is given to transference, countertransference, and the unique opportunities and challenges that emerge in psychotherapy with neurotic-level narcissistic personalities. While neurotic-level functioning represents a profound developmental achievement, it also introduces new emotional realities. As the capacity for integration grows, so too does the capacity to experience loss, guilt, limitation, and sorrow. The movement toward greater psychological health is not the elimination of suffering, but the ability to bear it without abandoning oneself or others. Additional ResourcesWebsite: https://healnpd.orgNewsletter: https://healnpd.substack…

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