# Scaling a Business Beyond the Family Playbook

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Podcast: [HBR On Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hbr-on-leadership-6411274)
Published: 2026-04-15T19:25:43+00:00
Episode link: https://hbr.org/podcast/2026/04/scaling-a-business-beyond-the-family-playbook
Audio file: https://audio.hbr.org/on-leadership/20260415132500-ScalingaBusinessBeyondtheFamilyPlaybook.mp3
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## Resource

Johnson Security Bureau is one of the oldest Black-owned security firms in the United States, providing services to New York-area banks, public works, hospitals, transportation facilities, and other industries. In order to grow the business, CEO Jessica Johnson-Cope considered partnering with security firms in other states, something that threatened to put some of the company’s founding priorities on the back burner. In this conversation with host Brian Kenny, Harvard Business School Senior Lecturer Henry McGee and CEO Jessica Johnson-Cope discuss the leadership dilemmas the heart of the case “Johnson Security Bureau: Building Multigenerational Success.”

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