# How to Break Free of Negative Thought Spirals Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hbr-ideacast-650643/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hbr-ideacast-650643/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals.md Podcast: [HBR IdeaCast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hbr-ideacast-650643) Published: 2026-05-19T13:05:00+00:00 Episode link: https://hbr.org/podcast/2026/05/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals Audio file: https://audio.hbr.org/ideacast/20260518111037-1079_HowtoBreakFreeofNegativeThoughtSpirals.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hbr-ideacast-650643/episodes/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals Duration seconds: 1778 ## Resource Why do we replay cryptic emails, small workplace slights, and past business decisions over and over in our heads? Science journalist Donna Jackson Nakazawa has looked deep into the research and discovered the hidden brain mechanisms that get us into these loops. She explains why a need for achievement, as well as modern work culture, make the problem worse. And she shares practical techniques for recognizing when reflection has crossed into rumination, interrupting destructive thought patterns, and helping teams create more psychological clarity and safety. Nakazawa is author of “Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist”. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hbr-ideacast-650643/episodes/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hbr-ideacast-650643/how-to-break-free-of-negative-thought-spirals.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.