# Stable Leadership in Chaotic Times

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Podcast: [Harvard Business Review](https://stenobird.com/podcast/harvard-business-review-7777387)
Published: 2026-07-20T12:30:00+00:00
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Steady Leadership in Tumultuous Times 5 Dec 2025 --- If leaders and companies abandon their values when pressured, they weren’t really values in the first place, argues University of Houston professor Brené Brown. In this episode of IdeaCast, the author and researcher explains her views on finding strong ground as a leader, using sports metaphors and examples of how companies could and should be leading in today’s world. Brown’s latest book is “Strong Ground: The Lessons of Daring Leadership, the Tenacity of Paradox, and the Wisdom of the Human Spirit.”#BreneBrown #leadership #HarvardBusiness #StrongGround 00:00 The Metaphor of Strong Ground 00:55 Introduction Brene Brown 01:10 Leadership in Uncertain Times 03:22 Systems Theory and Leadership 5:35 Artificial Intelligence at Organizations 07:10 The Importance of Authenticity 9:55 What Strong Ground Means in Business 15:15 Pocket Presence as a Leadership Concept 19:00 Grounded Competence and Pattern Recognition 27:45 Why We Still Struggle to be Good Leaders 30:05 What You Can Do Now To Be a Better Leader Books, tools, and more: store.hbr.org Follow us: https://hbr.org/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/harvard-business-review/ https://www.facebook.com/HBR/ https://twitter.com/HarvardBiz https://www.instagram.com/harvard_business_review Sign up for Newsletters: https://hbr.org/email-newsletters #HarvardBusinessReview #YourCareer #Career #Job #Work #Business #Harvard #HarvardBusinessSchool Copyright © 2025 Harvard Business School Publishing. All rights reserved. ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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