# The Cocoon Phase: Why Struggle is Not Punishment

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Podcast: [Hardly Initiated](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hardly-initiated-4544439)
Published: 2026-04-30T13:00:13+00:00
Episode link: https://redcircle.com/shows/e902b153-0da5-4a64-9f0d-05cde18e3630/episodes/fc2b1226-a300-416e-9efc-08931f2c24c5
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## Resource

Why do we automatically assume that difficult times mean we've done something wrong? Today, we dismantle the toxic idea that struggle equals punishment. By looking at the painful, disfiguring process a caterpillar must undergo to become a butterfly, we uncover the divine necessity of resistance in our own lives.  Host Jessica Laine-MacDonald: https://www.instagram.com/itsjessicalaine/ Renew The Mind Journal: https://www.hardlyinitiated.com/products/renew-the-mind-journal Fight The Flesh Bracelet: https://www.hardlyinitiated.com/products/fight-the-flesh-bracelet Hardly In Love Dating Cards: https://www.hardlyinitiated.com/products/dating-deck Apply for Teach The Game Thursdays: https://forms.gle/b3mxsAhMd6hx4AnN9 Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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