# More Happier: Ever Feel Like You Don’t Matter? A Conversation with Jennifer Wallace

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Podcast: [Happier with Gretchen Rubin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/happier-with-gretchen-rubin-392423)
Published: 2026-04-18T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

At the World Happiness Summit meeting at the SXSW conference in Austin, Texas, we talk to author Jennifer Wallace about her new book, “Mattering: The Secret to a Life of Deep Connection and Purpose.” Resources & links related to this episode: Mattering by Jennifer Wallace World Happiness Summit Take the Four Tendencies Quiz here Get in touch: podcast@gretchenrubin.com Visit Gretchen's website to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and the Happier app. Find the transcript for this episode on the episode details page in the Apple Podcasts app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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