# Edgewalkers, Sunset Dates, and Coaching the Chaos-Minded Creator

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Published: 2026-07-03T14:20:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Hapitalist, Russell sits down with former corporate executive turned CEO coach Alison Godfrey to discuss powerful coaching frameworks designed to give “chaos-minded creators” better structure and self-awareness. The conversation dives deep into the differences between therapy (excavating the past) and coaching (building a bridge to the future), and explores how our bodies physically lie to us about anxiety. Together, they unpack various change archetypes, actionable strategies for setting boundaries, and why a company will never outgrow its owner. Key Frameworks Discussed * Coaching vs. Therapy: Therapy goes deep into the original source of pain, while coaching acts as architecture, building a bridge right over turbulent waters to the future version of yourself. * Judy Neal’s Change Archetypes: * Edgewalkers: Chase novelty, possibility, and shiny objects, but their shadow side is abandoning projects once it comes time for implementation. * Guardians: Plan for risks and protect the future, though their shadow side is resisting all change out of fear. * Flamekeepers, Hearth Tenders, & Placeholders: Additional archetypes that manage values, daily operations, and stability, each with their own unique shadow sides like dogma, task-fatigue, or cynicism. * Sunset Dates: A boundary-setting tool where you assign a firm end date to tasks or roles, allowing for a graceful transition without abandoning responsibilities. * Storing Your No’s: The practice of projecting your own self-imposed blocks onto other people (like bosses or events) rather than owning the refusal internally. * AQ (Agility Quotient): A system profiling how people handle change, ranging from slow and reactive “Neurosurgeons” to fast-acting “Astronauts”. * HAPI Compass: A Hapitalist framework c…

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