# 'I guess he's the President of that country too'

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Podcast: [Hancock and Kelley](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hancock-and-kelley-6067218)
Published: 2026-01-09T14:48:04+00:00
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Duration seconds: 928

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John Hancock and Michael Kelley back in-studio together. They react to the ICE shooting in Minneapolis, was it inevitable? John Hancock has some thoughts on Missouri Senator Josh Hawley, who voted for a war powers resolution angering Pres Donald Trump. Hancock calls him an 'actual populist', Kelley thinks he will 'change on a dime.' And we still haven't seen much of the Epstein files. Jake Zimmerman is in the race for St Louis County Exec.

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