# Challenging And Defending Liberty: Do Libertarians Sound Like Leftists On Foreign Policy | Hn 231

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Podcast: [Haman Nature](https://stenobird.com/podcast/haman-nature-6761033)
Published: 2026-05-08T17:21:43+00:00
Episode link: https://hamannature.substack.com/p/challenging-and-defending-liberty
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Adam Haman and Bob Murphy introduce a new kind of topic for their (now) famous crossover episodes. It's called "Challenging and Defending Liberty", and Bob has a doozy of a challenge! Leftists talk about crime (and serial killers in this case) in a certain kind of way that is very unpalatable to "normie" conservatives. Do our leading libertarian voices come off the same way when discussing foreign policy? Bob throws down the gauntlet and Adam answers the call!00:00 — Introducing Challenging and Defending Liberty (with sick guitar riff)!00:58 — Bob lays down his challenge: Do libertarians come off as lefties re foreign policy? 05:00 — Clip 1: The way we think about serial killers is "copaganda". Corollary: how much does the way a person looks and acts alter they way their arguments are perceived?09:16 — Clip 2: Cops are bad and we need to stop "dehumanizing" serial killers. Corollary: Are "we" just apologizing for evil behavior when we discuss foreign policy?19:12 — Clip 3: Society creates serial killers because of bad governance It's "our" fault as much as theirs. Corollary: Libertarians are just apologists for evil and engage in moral relativism, just like lefties. 27:32 — Clip 4: The media glamorizes dull and broken people for its own purposes. Corollary: libertarians say the "war party" plays up foreign policy dangers for their own purposes.35:54 — Adam gives his defense of "Liberty" against Bob's "Challenge". It's brilliant, of course.50:06 — Bob gives his response. How did Adam do with this challenge?58:06 — Outro. Thanks for watching Haman Nature! Sponsor mentioned: https://ScottHortonAcademy.com/crossover Video (by Olurinatti) mentioned: Haman Nature Merch Store: https://shop.hamannature.com Adam on X: https://x.com/Rerazer Bob on X: https://x.com/BobMurphyEcon…

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