# 38 - Logan Allen: Zorp, NockChain, A Market For Zero-Knowledge Proofs Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacking-state-6414128/38-logan-allen-zorp-nockchain-a-market-for-zero-knowledge-proofs Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacking-state-6414128/38-logan-allen-zorp-nockchain-a-market-for-zero-knowledge-proofs.md Podcast: [Hacking State](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacking-state-6414128) Published: 2024-12-05T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://hackingstate.podbean.com/e/zorp/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wkn4fyacq454ka5n/Zorp.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hacking-state-6414128/episodes/38-logan-allen-zorp-nockchain-a-market-for-zero-knowledge-proofs Duration seconds: 4120 ## Resource Logan Allen is the CEO of Zorp, an applied research company building NockChain and the Nockstack. We discuss how NockChain combines proof-of-work with zero-knowledge proofs, creating incentives for proof generation at scale. The conversation covers how zero-knowledge proofs enable state compression for large computations and Zorp's approach to building secure infrastructure for network tribes. We explore practical applications like verifying computations in nuclear reactors and power stations, the economics of zero-knowledge proof markets, and how the Nockstack provides tools for high-security production environments. Nock's minimal instruction set makes it simple enough for one person to understand, forming the foundation for this secure computing infrastructure. If you enjoyed this interview, please leave a review on Spotify/iTunes. Support Hacking State: https://hackingstate.substack.com/subscribe Listen on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@alexmurshak Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hacking-state/id1689677076 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1XB9XYULrAY4dp0qIJVvCg RSS: https://feed.podbean.com/hackingstate/feed.xml ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/hacking-state-6414128/episodes/38-logan-allen-zorp-nockchain-a-market-for-zero-knowledge-proofs/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacking-state-6414128/38-logan-allen-zorp-nockchain-a-market-for-zero-knowledge-proofs.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.