# Why 69% of CISOs Are Ready to Walk Away with Anthony Johnson

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Podcast: [Hacker Valley Studio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hacker-valley-studio-344898)
Published: 2026-03-06T22:19:31+00:00
Episode link: https://HackerValleyStudio.podbean.com/e/why-69-of-cisos-are-ready-to-walk-away-with-anthony-johnson/
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The CISO role isn’t the finish line, it’s a launchpad. 69% of security executives are eyeing the exit, and Anthony Johnson is proof that what comes next can be even bigger. Anthony Johnson, former Global CISO at JP Morgan and Fannie Mae, now founder and managing partner at Delve Risk, breaks down what really happens when a security leader stops buying tools and starts building companies. From the trap of unpaid advisory boards to why AI is eliminating the entry-level pipeline, Anthony delivers a no-nonsense look at career strategy, the future of fractional work, and why understanding how your company makes money is the most underrated skill in cybersecurity. If you’re a security practitioner at any level, this episode will change how you think about your next move. Impactful Moments00:00 - Introduction01:00 - Meet Anthony Johnson02:00 - 69% of CISOs want out06:00 - Why Anthony left the CISO seat09:00 - Revenue changes your security priorities11:00 - Career paths after the CISO role13:00 - The advisory board compensation trap17:00 - AI’s threat to the talent pipeline22:00 - Hiring for aptitude over competency24:00 - Soft skills win in the AI era29:00 - Corporate loyalty is dead—now what31:00 - Networking that actually lands roles34:00 - Know how your company makes money36:00 - Ron’s personal reflection on freedom LinksConnect with our guest, Anthony Johnson, on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-johnson-delverisk/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord…

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