# Ep358: Casebook of a Spirit Lawyer - Mary Shutan

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Podcast: [Guru Viking Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/guru-viking-podcast-1161340)
Published: 2026-04-24T13:00:13+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode I am once again joined by Mary Shutan: author, occultist, and spiritual teacher. Mary opens her casebook as a spirit lawyer, working on behalf of her clients with occult techniques to solve all manner of natural and supernatural problems. Mary recounts stories of jealous wizards, astral encounters, and the dark side of shamanism. Mary also reveals the two ways in which curses operate, warns about the power of blood magic, and explores the connection between trauma and soul retrieval. … Video episode: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep358-casebook-of-a-spirit-lawyer-mary-shutan Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’. … Topics include: 00:00 - Intro 00:39 - What is a spirit lawyer? 05:46 - How Mary works with clients 09:16 - Case study: I am blocked in my spiritual seeking 12:50 - Case study: I keep getting angry at work 15:14 - How to meet people where they are 18:28 - A shift in Mary’s method 20:30 - Working with spirits 23:07 - Initiations and navigating the Underworld 27:08 - Dark side of shamanism 30:01 - 2 ways in which curses work 34:23 - Easy-access occult systems 36:44 - Rescuing black magic practitioners 38:20 - Magick can be addictive 40:27 - Difficulty letting go of magick 41:44 - How to offset karmic debts 45:19 - Language magick 47:16 - The exorcism of Mattias Daly 49:39 - - How common is genuine spirit oppression? 55:13- Blood magick 57:29 - Dangers to the spirit lawyer 01:00:41 - Power and jealous wizards 01:02:25 - Meeting powerful practitioners 01:04:14 - Commonalities among systems 01:06:11 - Meeting people in the astral realm 01:07:08 - Mary’s shamanic techniques 01:08:45 - Journeying and discernment 01:10:37 - Trauma and soul retrieval 01:13:26 - Psychedelic casualties 01:14:25 - Mentoring other…

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