# #15: I Plead the Fifth (Edition) w/ Matt Young & Arnie Niekamp

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Podcast: [Gumshoes & Dragons](https://stenobird.com/podcast/gumshoes-dragons-7429181)
Published: 2026-03-02T06:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Hello from the Magic Court Room! This week our guests are Matt & Arnie and they are playing the same guy (kinda). And for the first time our heroes find themselves in the court room. Can they prove their innocence? Is that even what we are doing here? You'll have to listen to find out! Support the show, get behind-the-scenes episodes, ad-free episodes, and submit item/npc names by joining our Patreon ! Guest Murderers Matt Young Arnie Niekamp Your DM Anthony Burch Starring Adal Rifai Erin Keif John Patrick Coan Editor Casey Toney Theme by: Arne Parrott Produced by: John Patrick Coan Episode Artwork by: Paige Kilcullen Check out the website: gumshoesanddragons.com Send us an email: gumshoesanddragons@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram , Twitter , Bsky , TikTok

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