# How to Be Genuinely Interesting - Without performing, pretending, or people-pleasing

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Podcast: [Growth Mindset Psychology: The Science of Self-Improvement](https://stenobird.com/podcast/growth-mindset-psychology-the-science-of-self-improvement-615575)
Published: 2026-04-28T03:00:00+00:00
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