# The PACT Formula for Starting Over with Steve Kamb

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Podcast: [Growth In Reverse: Newsletter & Email Growth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/growth-in-reverse-newsletter-email-growth-7107720)
Published: 2026-06-17T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/030548da
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## Resource

Steve Kamb bought the domain for NerdFitness.com in 2007 and grew it into a 45-person, SEO-driven coaching company. But then he burned out. Badly. He demoted himself twice, and eventually stepped away from running the business entirely — all so he could do the one thing he actually loved: write. In this episode, Steve joins us to talk about his new book How to Try Again , the hard lessons from 17+ years of building Nerd Fitness, and why starting over isn't a failure — it's a skill. His PACT framework (Pause, Accept, Change, Try) offers a practical roadmap for any creator who's ever felt stuck, burned out, or tempted to quit. KEY TAKEAWAYS How Steve built Nerd Fitness from a blog into a 45-person company Why he demoted himself out of his own CEO role The brutal reality of pandemic-era burnout and what it taught him about chasing the wrong things Why "all or nothing" thinking almost always fails His four-step PACT framework for starting over after burnout or failure The question he asked that changed everything Why writing two articles a week for 10 years was the real engine behind Nerd Fitness The danger of modeling celebrity success over relatable success How Steve separated his personal brand from Nerd Fitness What success actually looks like for Steve now LINKS MENTIONED SteveKamb.com How To Try Again (Steve's Book) NerdFitness.com Kit — email platform used by Steve and the hosts FOLLOW ON SOCIAL Chenell : Twitter | LinkedIn Dylan : LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram OUR NEWSLETTERS growthinreverse.com growthcurrency.net Subscribe & Leave a Review: Love what you’re hearing? Make sure to subscribe, and if you found this episode helpful, leave us a rating & review on your favorite podcast platform.

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