# Zach Mercurio: Creating a Mattering Movement

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Podcast: [Growing with Purpose](https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-with-purpose-7220)
Published: 2025-05-28T17:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://podcast.paulspiegelman.com/e/zach-m/
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## Resource

On this episode of the Growing with Purpose podcast, host Paul Spiegelman speaks with Zach Mercurio, a researcher, author, and leadership development facilitator specializing in purposeful leadership, mattering, meaningful work, and positive organizational psychology. His latest book, The Power of Mattering, is available now. Zach is an expert in the importance and implementation of mattering in the workplace, but it’s a path he had to carve out for himself. The desire to explore this topic was sparked in him after his first job out of college. Working in advertising sales, he noticed the jarring fact that he and his team treated their clients as a resource rather than people with their own lives and interests. When he went on to complete his PhD research, he befriended the custodians who were in the school buildings late at night like him. This led him to focus his research on people in overlooked (and often underinvested in) professions like cleaning, and how they experience meaning in their work. Listen to this episode to learn Zach’s practical methods for scaling mattering in the workplace, the difference between mattering and belonging, and why Zach sees now as a time when people want to feel that they matter at their work more than ever. Show Notes: 2:35 - What is mattering? 9:27 - “Work was always an act of community” 14:37 - Early influences & Zach’s PhD research 24:40 - “Common sense is not common practice” 39:00 - How to scale mattering

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