# 15 Years in the Making: A conversation with Bo Burlingham & Paul Spiegelman

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Podcast: [Growing with Purpose](https://stenobird.com/podcast/growing-with-purpose-7220)
Published: 2024-06-04T11:27:00+00:00
Episode link: http://podcast.paulspiegelman.com/e/15-years/
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## Resource

It’s hard to believe that it has been 15 years since Bo and Paul started the Small Giants Community! Like many of us, Paul was inspired by Bo’s book and that started a series of conversations, leading to them bringing purpose-driven leaders together as a Community. Years later, the principles Bo wrote about in his book are stronger than ever, and we’ve seen the focus on culture and values become company differentiators. All of us continue to benefit from relationships and learnings with like-hearted leaders. In this episode - a special live recording of the Growing with Purpose podcast - Paul and Bo take a walk down memory lane, share stories and challenges, and reflect on what’s changed over the last 15 years. From what happened to the original companies Bo wrote about, to how the Community has evolved and what lies ahead, we hope you enjoy this touching celebration and fireside chat! Show Notes: 1:50 - It all began with a book 10:40 - Why Small Giants fail 15:10 - Paul and Bo's first interaction 25:05 - Endurance of Small Giants companies 33:40 - Making tough choices as Small Giants

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